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In this episode we discussed:
- differences between isolate and distillate.
- differences between broad spectrum and full spectrum.
- what to do if you’re THC sensitive.
- the entourage effect.
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[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, well welcome everybody to our q&a. I think we’ll have some more people popping in here as we go. But that’s just fine. I’m Sami. I’m the Marketing Director here at Freedom CBD. I know most of you.
But I moderate these conversations. And today we’re talking about isolate and distillate and broad spectrum and full spectrum and all the things because we get a lot of questions about this. We wanted to kind of run through some basics again and answer any questions you guys have. So before we get started, Ryan, why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself to the crowd.
[RYAN SANFORD] Did you say Ryan or Brian? Right on! Well, you’re gonna see me wipe my forehead a lot throughout this, but we’re in the greenhouse. Thought I’d set it up to show you guys behind all of our nice genetics. We’ll be doing seeds with and stuff but my name is Ryan. I’m helping to manage the farm and the greenhouse crew right now. So we’re plugging along and all of our greenhouses and a lot of work out in the field right now. So taking care of the plants, which is where all your oil comes from, but they’re looking good.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] You got a hot weekend to do.
[RYAN SANFORD] What’s that?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] You got a hot weekend coming!
[RYAN SANFORD] Yeah, I know. This is the cool day, huh? jumps up another 15 degrees in the next few days. So it’ll be fun.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Yep. Okay, cool. And Smalley, do you want to say hi, introduce yourself to I think most people here probably know you by now.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, look at the list of the group. I go participants. Yep, yep. Yeah, a couple names I don’t really recognize so my name is Brian Smalley. I’m the CEO of Freedom CBD and premium co starting cannabis long long time ago in a land far away on the THC side in the 90s transition. 10 different time I’m going to give a short version because I always give the long version. I’m ended up looking at high CBD genetics after THC wasn’t working quite as well as CBD and advancements in CBD so started heading into this direction allows us to scale massively without government oversight as much as the OLCC market so we can get good quality products out and help a lot more people without all the bullshit in between.
Basically, that’s what I do a little bit of everything, some days I’m gonna shovel some days I’m on a weed whacker, some days I’m taking cuttings some days, I’m managing things some days. I mean, yeah, that’s me. I do a little bit of everything.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, your audio is coming through clear for me but your videos a little bit shoddy, just saying. Yeah. Which is probably cuz it might be because your hair is taking up so much space.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] It got big. I’m not trying to go get my hair done in this time of pandemic. And it’s hot in here to you can tell.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] You’re in the lab.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah I’m lab guy today.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Yeah. Okay. Well, I’m expecting ew people to pop in here. But we’re going to go ahead and get started. And so today obviously, we’re talking about all of the different questions we get as far as like understanding the things that are on labels and what you guys should buy.
So, I kind of wanted to start with, um, it’s perfect that you’re in the greenhouse, and Sanford, but you know, growing the plants once the plants are harvested, kind of what’s the next step in processing? Like what do you guys do on the greenhouse side of things to get plants ready to go for processing to go into product?
[RYAN SANFORD] Well, we’ll get to our point and harvesting but that won’t be until October. When that point comes, you know, we cut all the plants down, we have them out in the field to dry, we have our big red beasts to combine. We’ll feed it through there and combine all of our product and then it goes into tote bags which then go into the lab and from there we are processing it.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So okay, and then step one in processing turns the biomass into crude. Yea? Smalley
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Oh, yeah, most Yeah. So with flower in the field, we turn the flower into biomass basically means we run it through a commercial process, the whole boutique thing is kind of dead. So the whole hand harvest hand hang hand processing hand, everything is dead. It’s not sustainable, it costs too much. So we’ve modified our combine to separate stock and stem from flower and leaf separates it very, very, very well. We take it from there and we turn it into what’s called a crude oil with an ethanol extraction.
So I’ll do a little walkthrough while we’re in here. I mean, might as well do a mild a little walk through kind of what we got going on. I want you guys to know that I color coordinated my shirt for the doors, so that I’m like camouflage. It looks good on my phone anyways. So in order to make crude we extract green oil machine guys you guys know this? Cold is kind of your friend.You don’t want chlorophyll and all the undesirables although chlorophyll has some benefits to us as mammals. In oil, all it does is decrease potency and decrease flavor. It’s not delicious. Some people like it, I suppose I can’t say that. I don’t find it too delicious when it’s black and dark and chlorophylly.
So we take this machine out here, which is a commercial ice rink. chiller, basically that chills a whole ice rink, and we fill that with our ethanol big old tank in the back. We get it to say a little something like. So negative 53 degrees or 53 degrees below zero. When we make our crude most of you at home who make oil green oil machine you can’t get quite that cold.But using your freezer definitely definitely helps. Super chill or ethanol or biomass goes into this chamber right here, which looks a little bit like the Back to the Future machine. Got a bunch of wires and do hickeys and everything hooked up. Kind of cool, super fancy, we do things differently. So I won’t keep it all there very long. We do things differently than most people do. In order to control our extraction to make it more efficient and get all the cannabinoids, terpenes flavonoids, everything we want that’s desirable. From that tank, he goes in there gets agitated around a little bit. It’s sucked through filters, right here into a holding tank right here. So clean oil machine people when you filter out your material, your ethanol to get your basically like your your soap is going to go into ground machinery to produce oil. This is what this is essentially, it’s just a little bit bigger. And then essentially this would be your green oil machine right here. So this is where all the distillation happens. This is called a falling film evaporator. So basically it’s a fairly standard form of evaporation with a few modifications on it. This is the reclaim tank that all the ethanol comes back into. But basically, crude is the rawest form you can get other than having plant material. It usually depends potency. Some people like 10% up to 75% is really, really, really high end crude. And that all depends on the quality of your material that goes in and your filtration process for the most part, but that’s crude.
Crude, good for topicals doesn’t taste very good. So putting in an edibles 1% of people love it and they go, this is delicious. And most of them it’s because they haven’t actually had anything other than that. So it’s all they know. So their body reacts to Oh, that’s a great flavor. But once you know better, you’re not going back.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I want to back up actually, because we did have a question come in asking the difference between hemp and cannabis cannabis and can hemp ever be higher than point 03 percent THC?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] All right, we get the legal disclaimer here. Although I am not a medical doctor, he’ll tell you how it’s gonna go. Gotcha. Um, all hemp is cannabis cannabis is hemp, it’s one species, it’s one plant. So the way we like to define it is high THC and low THC. Hemp would be low THC, Cannabis, weed, marijuana all that stuff would be high THC cannabis, but it’s one plant. And technically on the federal level, the maximum allowed is point 03. That’s what they allow. So at time of harvest and delta nine and thca has to be under point three or at time of testing actually a time of harvest it tends to hypothetically it goes up sometimes. And then when we make a concentrate the next level do you want me to go right into distillate?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Sure.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Right. So from crude, we go to make distillate and distillate is a refined crude. It’s another filtration separate process in order to concentrate it. Like I say, if you have a headache got five milligram asprin, you’re going to take a handful in order to work on your head. Distillate is the next stage of concentration. I’m in a bad internet bubble? Sorry, internet. I’ll look through the window.
Yeah, yeah. Can you se it now through the window?
Yes. Okay. So this machine because we see through the window, I can’t go in there ,does distillation and basically I’ll go over it again it distillation is the concentration and filtration of crude so we pull more undesirables out of our crude even though we have very few left behind, and we’ll take our concentration from say 65 or 70% total concentration to 85 to 90% depending on the run, and it does pull some terpenes out in the process because it’s a chilled process. So we heat it up and then we capture the terpenes basically with a chiller because the terpenes are going to come off, they’re going to vaporize before the cannabinoids vaporize. Some of the more volatile terpenes so we capture all those terpenes and then in most of our distillate we reintroduce those terpenes back into it after the fact. So we still have a nice full terp profile, full cannabinoid profile, but distillate is what I prefer for just about everything, even even in topicals I don’t want chlorophyll in there. I don’t want any plant material in there whatsoever. It decreases shelf life. It decreases potency and chlorophyll if you want some go eat a salad. It sounds funny but by two bites of spinach is equal to you know 10 grams of oil with chlorophyll and at the tastes like dirt.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] When you’ve gone through crude to the distillate process that is then the full spectrum distillate is what you’ve created.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, yep, at that point, it’s full. So everything we’re doing is full spectrum crude full spectrum distillate.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay. And then when you take it through the next next round of processing, that’s what creates the broad spectrum.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, from there, we’ll peek in the window just a little bit again, like it’s a little creepy, I feel like a predator or something, we’re gonna look through the windows. So there’s another piece of machinery basically, right here, which you can turn to probably not see so much. But what that’s called is chromatography. And with chromatography, we can take separate molecules and separate them from the rest of the molecules. So that’s what we use in order to make our broad spectrum to pull out 99.9999% of the THC that is in our full spectrum. And that’s good for people who have drug testing or have pilot’s license or have this or have that, and there’s still a chance that the tiny micro amounts that are in there, some people tend to hold on to those. So it’s not highly recommended for people to take even broad spectrum because broad spectrum comes back as LOQ basically it’s below a defined level where a lab can say, we cannot find this in there up to this level. So it doesn’t mean that it’s zero it still has trace trace trace amounts or could have trace trace trace amounts, some batches come back and they have probably nothing some come back and they have point 00000010. But like I said, some people’s bodies like to hold on to THC specifically, and store it and the reason we store stuff is because our body recognizes these recognizes these as a benefit. They’re a benefit to our body due to our endocannabinoid system. So you look at Vicodin or cocaine and all these drugs that are hard, bad drugs. At some point, they do have some medicinal value. However, our body expels those in 72 hours, you can take a handful of whatever and 72 hours is completely gone from our system. It’s because it’s toxic to our bodies. Our bodies gets rid of it because it’s toxic, whereas cannabinoids, they hold on to it.
So be careful if you’re one of those people who has heavy testing. And if it’s above the 50 nanogram testing 50 nanograms is the level for false positives in most companies, government agencies. And so you would have to take a lot of broad spectrum in order to go above 50 nanograms. But it’s possible, if anything is possible. Yeah, absolutely. I’ve tried it.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] What else comes out when you do the second process when you go from full spectrum to broad spectrum, what else comes out of the, of the oil during that?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I mean, ultimately, we’re targeting THC. We have tiny little bits of some of the other minors that come out. But primarily, it’s just THC, everything else comes across exactly how it went in. So that’s the whole point is to just remove the one molecule leave the rest behind.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So when people are shopping and looking at products, broad spectrum and full spectrum is a pretty standard thing to look out for on the label. So if you’re wanting something with a little bit of THC look for a full spectrum product if you’re wanting something with trace amounts of THC look for a broad spectrum product so then when we see labels that say isolate on it, what does that mean?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Well here’s the thing about the labels that isolate on it is most products don’t say isolate on it. They don’t tell you that it’s isolated. They sell you a product with 6000 milligrams in a bottle for only $35 and yeah, one time only or some nonsense like that. Um, most things aren’t labeled that they have isolate in it because I slit by itself does one thing I mean, it’s one molecule. And the way this plant works is whole. I mean broad spectrum is fantastic still works. But full spectrum with some THC in it if people can take THC by far the way to go. I take that stuff at nighttime and I take I take a lot more in recommended on the bottom. I think for droppers go right to sleep is perfect. But daytime I’m a broad spectrum person, because it brings that alertness and just action like I’m ready to go, you know, work 15 hours sleep four hours get back up broad spectrum in the morning with some coffee or without put it into a shake anything broad spectrum. Yeah, I live my days on broad spectrum. I live my nights on full.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So the benefit? Well, the benefit of isolate right is there’s literally no taste to it. So yeah, for things you want no flavor, and that’s what isolate is typically used for, right?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, odorless, colorless, flavorless, easier to make water soluble to put in drinks, and things of that nature. But we don’t make isolate here. It’s just not our thing. We have some people that want it and I get it from other people for them just because they want to put in their products and we’re a one stop shop. But it’s not something I make because the medical viability of it is way less. I mean, we could probably sell tons of products, a bunch of isolate in it.
Probably it’s not gonna happen. We don’t need it. We don’t have to have it. And as long as regulations stay the same, we’re going to keep doing what we do, because we make superior products that help people. I mean, night and day, you take our bottle of full spectrum or even broad spectrum, you put it up next to the guy down the road might have twice as much total CBD in it, and it’s isolated. And people can 100% tell the difference. They’ll take 10 droppers of it and go, Oh, I really didn’t feel anything. If anything, I got a headache. And that’s because of the residuals that are potentially an isolate. They use very harsh chemicals for extracting.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So I didn’t prep you for this question. So I apologize if you don’t know the answer.But when people are looking at COAs or lab results, does it clearly state on those results like this is a distillate test this is an isolate test so that they can tell very clearly what’s in the product they’re getting?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] No because what stays what’s on the test is what the customer or the lab has issued as their This is test b 36. So it will say b 36, or whatever it is, there’s no, there’s no law stating what it has to be.
You can generally look at the size of the bottle, if it’s a one ounce bottle, and it has more than 4000 milligrams in it. It’s not really thick and chunky, then it’s going to be isolate based. I mean, a lot of the companies will take stuff and just boost their potency with isolate, because it already has some full spectrum in there are some broad spectrum. And in order to make it a higher potency, they throw a bunch of isolate in there. The isolate doesn’t end up really being absorbed very well, but it’ll show up in a test as far as they take it to a lab. So it’s just all comes down to know who’s making your medicine know who’s making your products. Do you trust them? Or is it someone makes it in their living room or someone who just bought 20 kilos of isolate and now they’re a CBD company?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So can you talk a little bit because this is something that comes up a lot with broad spectrum versus full spectrum. The entourage effect. Can you talk a little bit about that and why that’s impactful on our bodies?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, so the entourage effect is like we’re talking about others. It’s every cannabinoid flavonoid terpene. In that plant, working synergistically together in order to help boost your immune system, create homeostasis inside your body. I think we walk around daily, if we’re not consuming cannabinoids, in Endocannabinoid deficiencies, because we’re designed to have them and so forth. We’re not getting that stimulus that we’re supposed to have and a lot of disease states and medical issues come from certain deficiencies.
So I’m all about taking my vitamin every day, working hard and trying to stay healthy. And part of that helps. I mean, if we’re taking some oil regularly, the odds of getting sick go down. I mean, there’s a bunch of different things go down by just simply boosting our own endocannabinoid system with quality products, not junk.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] But the entourage effect is about having multiple cannabinoids, multiple terpenes it’s and yeah and and having kind of them all work together inside of your body as opposed to having like the single cannabinoid.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah and it’s everything is the plant I was intended is the like the definition. However when you look at some people who love the dirty crude oil which don’t get me wrong, been there done that I’ve evolved. Um, the entourage effect, doesn’t have anything to do with chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is not part of the entourage effect. It does not interact with the endocannabinoid system, cannabinoids or terpenes. So the whole dirty oil the whole plant thing, we mean when we say the whole plant, I mean, the molecules of the plant, like the cannabinoid molecules, terpenes, flavonoids, not chlorophyll, waxes, lipids, those sort of things. Although for topicals, like I said, waxes and lipids from the plant are great, but we have other better sources that are more shelf stable, that actually penetrate the skin better. So it’s take out all the cannabinoids and then add your other secondary amazingness.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, and if anybody has questions, please make sure you leave them in the chat and we’ll make sure to get to them. But a few more to get through.
So if I am THC sensitive, is it better for me to go with a broad spectrum product or should I just take it and be safer and do an isolate product so I’m at least getting the benefits of CBD?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Define sensitive? Do you eat everything in the fridge? Do you go crazy zonkers? Do you have a drug test at work?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] So some of the comments that I have gotten are like, I feel my heart racing or my body just feels a little bit uncomfortable.
[RYAN SANFORD] Oh, I’ll interject, but my sister has that effect, like the full spectrum. And she’s kind of always been like that with THC. It gives her kind of an anxiety or a higher level, the broad spectrum works really well for and she has slight Tourette’s, like her eyes will shake a lot and stuff and on the broad spectrum, that becomes almost absolutely almost and she’s 34. She’s had that most her life. So full spectrum she’s sensitive to THC, a broad spectrum does great for just input there.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] But ya know that know that that’s how a lot of people are, you’re 100%, right. I like to start people on broad spectrum and work it in if they’re sensitive to a half dose, because the full spectrum really is best for us. If, if legally you can take it with your employment, your job, your everything. Full Spectrum is so much better for us. It adds to that entourage effect because like you take one you’re making cookies, and you take the sugar out of the recipe, and all of a sudden, you’ve got a biscuit. Clear, but you want a cookie. Right? You see what I’m saying? So I would recommend either if they’re very ultra sensitive, broad spectrum is awesome. Isolate is gonna suck no matter what you do. Your you’re not going to feel jumpy from isolate whatsoever or anxious or nervous or anything like that. But you’re also not really going to feel anything. And you don’t you want it to actually work for you. That’s the whole point is take something that works continue to take it because it continues to help.
So I would recommend, you know, start with a 25% dose of the full spectrum, just low dose and titrate yourself up because we’re designed to take them in. So you can start ultra, you can start with five drops of full spectrum. And every three days, increase your drops until it you know, a week or two weeks, you’re at a dropper. I mean, there’s many ways to do it. Titration or titrating up, working your way up gradually, is ultimately the best way to do it. Cancer patients who were taken two – three grams of high THC oil daily, they don’t just start off taking two or three grams. I mean, literally, it’s like a pinpoint just a little tiny toothpick amount. And then you know, after you tolerate, tolerate, tolerate after a while your body builds up tolerance. So at that point in time, you can take a higher amount you get the medicinal benefits without any psychrotrophic effects.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, so this leads right into the next question, which is, somebody asked one like some days I find that it works really well. And then the next day, it’s not working so well. And the next day it works really well again, do you have any thoughts or feedback on why that’s the case or what they can do to kind of support that.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Our body has different demands, if you’re in a high stress environment, and you’re using it for anxiety, and then one day is very, very, very stressful. It’s the same thing like I’ve got a headache today. So I take 100 milligrams aspirin for my headache, but if you have a migraine, you’re gonna take a 500 milligrams. So a lot of it is Endocannabinoid deficiencies or our body needs more at certain times. It’s not a one size fits all take this every day, it’ll make everything go away.
If I’m stressed, I take more, if I’ve been working out, I take more. Some days I take less sometimes I wake up feeling like a million bucks because the day before I might have taken you know, four droppers. So I wake up and I’ll take my standard morning dose
Why you laughing Sami?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I’m not I’m smiling because you brought this up twice before.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] But that is it some days you need more.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] It’s just about listening to your body right?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Take more. Yeah, exactly. Listen to your body. Oh, you’re you’re you’re a mom, listen to your body kids. That’s, oh, yeah, listen to your body people.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay? And then is it also like would it be better maybe in that situation to to pay attention to the time of day that you’re taking it and maybe taking it in the morning and at night so that it’s in your system on a more consistent basis versus like maybe you took it at 10 o’clock in the morning and then the next day you like forgotten you didn’t take it till two and so now there’s just like that irregularity.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, there are there are some people yeah, once you’ve once you’ve been taking it for a couple weeks, your endocannabinoid system is going to be kind of charged. So you could go two or three days before your receptors are even going to start to clear with taking nothing. But yeah, some days I do notice same sort of thing and people will be like, wow, it’s afternoon I was so busy, like what’s missing in my day? I’m like, Ah, yeah. All right, so then I go back I’ll take a dropper and honestly broad spectrum daytime for me is it’s pretty amazing. I mean, I’ll do full spectrum during the day but broad. I really really like it cuz I get everything done. It gives me a mental focus. I mean, it’s good for recovery for all the work we’re doing physically. And yeah, that’s fantastic.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] You mentioned earlier that you kind of recommend if people are maybe THC sensitive or just starting out to start with broad spectrum, but then it’s also the case for like kiddos and pets do you recommend starting with broad spectrum for that demographic as well?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I mean, no, not really. Honestly. I like I would rather get the right answer is full spectrum smaller dosing. But usually, it’s hard to say it to this way is like, if you have two bottles one says broad ones as full. If someone knows are taking something with THC. Half the time there’s a stress of going, Oh, I don’t know what’s going to happen. What if I’m going to get this or I’m going to feel this. I’m going to feel that and a lot of the time. It’s mental versus physical anyways. And so try both get both of them. I mean, do a blind dropper test. It’d be fun. It’d really be fun fun.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, yeah, remember my parents on New Year’s Eve used to like pour us a dropper of champagne like like a little piece of champagne in our orange juice with our flutes, you know, like, like, like, it was literally like, barely any. And we’d be walking around like, oh, like, we are so drunk. It’s like no, you know, so yes, I agree with you. A lot of that is mental especially.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I’m not going to your house at Christmas it sounds weird.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Well, that I sound weird. I need anybody to back me up here that I am not the weird one of this bunch.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] All right, and it also makes your hair grow. Broad spectrum full spectrum increases hair growth.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Sanford you want to talk about hair growth with the the CBD products? Well it does, you know,
[RYAN SANFORD] It really has had an effect. I mean I’m not gonna go down to too much but
A couple years ago I did have more balding and what I have and I have a lot of people who’ve noticed that soI still and I do sometimes I have rubbed it in there not just taking the tincture but that’s more when we were toying around and I was getting people saying Hey, your your hair is coming back. I was like, Oh, I better put some more of this on but so just to have an effect for real.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I love it.
[RYAN SANFORD] Unlike Mr. Smalley’s hair over there that’s, I used to have here like that.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I don’t think so. I work out on a farm so I buzz it down. I’m good.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] For those of you that have been on these Q and A’s on a regular basis. We’re going from like top of the head for Smalley to like facial hair. To like top of the head to like I gave myself a COVID haircut. So make sure you come back every time we do these just for an update on the new hairdo the new hairdo? Yeah.
Okay, so that’s basically the gist of the questions that we got. I don’t know if there’s anything else you guys want to share with regards to, you know, the differences between broad and full what people might want to consider when they’re buying what they might want to look for on their labels. Again, if anybody has questions, please leave them in the chat so we can make sure to get to those.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] And I’m going to say one thing, but don’t be scared of full spectrum. The amount of THC that is in there is so minor in comparison to what our bodies kind of absorb. THC is not a scary thing. The whole war on drugs thing has demonized it. It’s not a scary thing. It’s good for you. People abused anything people drink too much water and die. So take everything you know with a grain of salt. Do your research it is beneficial for 99.9% of people in the planet animals horses, dogs, cats, monkeys. Any other animals there Sami? Raccoons?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Dolphins.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] No. Dolphins, makesand crazy yeah, does it makes them crazy. It does. Yeah, I tried that. Not good.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I feel like there’s a story there.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, you don’t hear it. I got a video of one day I’ll post pretty funny.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] You fed a dolphin CBD.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I tried but it didn’t work instead it tried to.
[RYAN SANFORD] We’ve almost got a deer around here. Oh yeah, we’ve got dear friend.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, I’m gonna try it on a deer a little buck deer. He’s keeps coming up to us. Yep. So we’ll see how he takes it. It’ll either be he loves it or it’ll be a really cool video when he kicks the crap out of me.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I will say like, I never use CBD before I worked here. And I tried like the first product that I took with our full spectrum and I never had any sort of psychoactive high.
[RYAN SANFORD] Still going in your teas.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] No, I know I’m out.
[RYAN SANFORD] What you’re out! Come on down to the lab.
I should clarify great comment. No, I was just gonna say if you’re talking about dosing and not being afraid of full spectrum, my sister who is very sensitive to THC, we started off with half a dropper. So if she had done last, maybe it would have had a different effect, but I just switched her over to broad. So if you’re someone who heard that and you’re thinking, Oh, no, maybe I’ll have an effect. Just start off smaller doses.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yep, yeah. Micro dosing titration.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Awesome. Okay, so wait, let’s actually since you’re talking about micro dosing, and titration, let’s actually go to the other side of the spectrum. And so for people that have upped and up and up and up their doses and now all of a sudden they’re taking a lot. And then sometimes your receptors just need a break. Yeah, talk about that a little bit too.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, receptor cleanse basically is, like I said, as you build up and you’re able to consume more and more and more and more, it’s the same sort of thing with other drugs or alcohol or any of those things. The more you take it, the more your body becomes accustomed to it, and the less results you actually will get. So receptor cleanse, most people say a week, but in three to four days, your receptors will be clear enough to start again, because one of the things I noticed is people get major benefit with joints in their mind that three or four days is about the time when they start feeling something again, like they’re losing lubrication on their joints, arthritis is kind of coming back. So take a break for three or four days, take nothing suffer through, but most people there won’t be actually any suffering. And then get back to it. And then you’ll have to be able to start out with a smaller dose as well. So if you were taking, you know, five droppers a day was your happy place.
Start back with one dropper a day. And then titrate up slowly to where you’re there again and every four to six weeks, it’s good to do a receptor cleanse or clearing where you just abstain. abstinence, or what else?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] What if you’re dealing with a chronic illness like cancer
and you don’t want to take that four to six…
[BRIAN SMALLEY] You’re still actually better off taking it. If you’re, if it’s during a chemo phase or any of those things, then you just plan it accordingly. For the time when you’re not not right after chemo, you know, maybe up to and then take it again. It really is beneficial and it it’s more cost effective to because you can keep pushing through and sucking out a bottle every three days. But we can get our bodies back to peak efficiency by just laying off it for a tiny little bit and then getting back on it that way. We get back to our base dose versus always having to take more and more and more and more.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, one more question. And then I’ll get to you Sanford. But um
Is it easier if you do schedule those in like every four to six weeks, let’s say as opposed to waiting like four to six months, is it less time then that you need to take that break and just make that part of like your regular routine, like I know every four to six weeks, I’m going to have two days versus every four to six months, I’m gonna have a full week where I’m dealing with pain and issues.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] If you wait four to six months, your benefits for your current dose are going to decrease after four to six weeks. So ultimately, I mean, you can go as long as you want, but your benefits are going to decrease unless your potency or the amount of you know, milligrams, you’re taking increases. So four to six weeks is fairly standard. And with the endocannabinoid system, every single person is different. So you kind of have to feel it out for yourself. But the average the standard I recommend is every four to six weeks. Listen to your body.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Listen to your body. Okay, Sanford what’s up.
[RYAN SANFORD] Something else you mentioned last time, too is you can always change it up. If you start if you’re taking like a full spectrum CBD, I’m big on our cinnamon full spectrum CBD I’ve always liked that one. But like you said when that wearing off kind of takes place, you could switch over to the CBD CBG one with the compound more of CBG that cannabinoid synergistically on a higher level with the CBD will have an effect to write Smalley, where you can switch back and forth.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yep, that’s like switching strains sometimes and on the THC side for cancer patients really helps and it’s not so much about switching the strain. It’s about switching the lab based on the lab report because the different strains are going to have different terpenes they’re going to have different secondary cannabinoids. THC is THC is THC. Same thing with CBD, but it’s all the secondary things that come along with it. So yeah, that that is one way you can do is just switch over completely but then at some point, you’re gonna run out of alternatives. You’re gonna be saturated and then you’re gonna have to do a clear a cleanse. But yeah, that is one way to do it too because CBG interacts differently than CBD.
So yeah, good job Sanford.
[RYAN SANFORD] Given the full spectrum cinnamon a run for its money to man, I like that CBD CBG it’s good.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I like that cinnamon though. I don’t know I’m partial.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] No, yeah, but you’re fruity. You like the pina colada?
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I do like pina colada. I don’t be telling people but yeah, I highly good. Really? Margarita.
[RYAN SANFORD] We come out with flavors someone. Someone could win a trip with smiley out on the beach and pina colada.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Okay, so last call, if anybody has questions, and while we wait for you guys, don’t be shy. It always takes one person to put something into the chat before like the floodgates open and then we’re ready to leave and all the questions come in. So put your questions in. But while we’re doing that, I just want to make sure everybody that’s here knows about our Eagle Compassion program because this is something near and dear to Brian Smalley’s heart and the rest of us at the company. But we do have a compassion program for folks that are on disability low income frontline workers.teachers’ chronic illness, there’s a whole list that we have on our website. And I will put the link here in the chat when I’m done talking, because those of you that have been here before, no, I can’t talk and type at the same time. But it does give you a discount on our products, because we absolutely feel like everybody should have access to our products, regardless of their ability to pay. And, you know, like small, you mentioned a little bit earlier, if you are dealing with chronic illnesses, your dosing might be a little bit higher than normal. And so we want to make sure that that’s available in there for you. So I don’t know if there’s anything else you want to add to that. But we definitely want to always remind people that that is a program that we offer and with anybody that you know, that might be able to benefit.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, tell your friends share because honestly, it works. It’s one of those things where it’s not like a product that has to be I don’t know i don’t even consider a selling because all I do is tell you about it make the best quality thing that we can make. And it’s been like with the THC side for me forever. You make the best product you can possibly make. And it helps people. You just want to tell people and tell people to tell people and then they tell people. And that’s how we do it. So tell your friends and neighbors everybody.
[RYAN SANFORD] Not to bash other companies. But when we say we make a good quality product, like we put a good amount of medicinal aspect into our products for a really good price. You look at other competitors. I mean, we’ve got two, three, sometimes four times as much for a cheaper price. So we do make things really well here. And because we are fully integrated, we can keep that cost down for all of you. So it’s also a good thing to spread to your friends. We can get you a good product for much better price.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Awesome.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Is it hot in there?
[RYAN SANFORD] What’s that? Yes, it’s hot.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Your heads like the same color as your shirt.
[RYAN SANFORD] Yeah, I know man. It is. But they love it.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, yeah, those plants each one of those has about 350 tops on them. Those. Yeah, those are the culmination of many years of badassery like all coming together.
[RYAN SANFORD] Man, they’re nice. There they are.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Greenhouse was literally empty like two weeks ago.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, we planted the other month ago and yeah, those things look so awesome. They’re gonna Yeah, they’re gonna be pretty dang sexy.
[RYAN SANFORD] Should I go into greenhouse three.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] Yeah, go in there real quick Sanford, give a quick tour.
[RYAN SANFORD] We’ve had these plants for a while, you know, we were taking the cust and stuff off of them. But they’ve all started flowering.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] We lost his audio, I think Smalley if you want to narrate.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] All they are, but those are about 12 to 13 feet tall. Some are 10 feet tall.
I mean, Sanfords got the tallest guy on the planet, but still when he puts his arm up, it’s at least six feet. [RYAN SANFORD] And I took CBD I got to six foot ass.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] No, that is not how that works.
[RYAN SANFORD] So anyway, here’s look at these ones back here. They’re just monsters.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Lori says she loves it.
[RYAN SANFORD] I mean, that one back there is gotta be like 15’ – 16’
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] That’s all we got. All we got. That was some real good English there. That’s all we have for today. unless anybody has last call for questions. Any final uh, Laurie says size matters.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I don’t think you were was supposed to read that aloud. I think she was joking.
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I know she was joking. But you know it This has been a very tame live q&a I figured we had to throw out like one thing.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] You know why it has’t been taken sideways? I’m quitting the beer for 30 days, like 30 days. I’m not like I drink tons of beer but like I’m finding myself working too much gyms are closed and so yeah, eat healthy, live healthy, be healthy. So yeah, that’s why I was so tame because normally in this hand here the one you can’t see. There’s like like this.
[RYAN SANFORD] We remember two videos ago, there was none of that. It was just Hey, how’s everybody cheers?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Oh, Jen. Jen says hi to Carter and Dylan and Rosemary says thank you so much. Right. Oh, hold on, Jen. Hold on.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] It’ll be video probably of Carter I betcha. Why am I not seeing it?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] I don’t know where he went. Where did he go?
[JEN] I didn’t mean to hijack everything
is that my big boy? Look at him look at our I don’t even know I don’t even know what to say to you about that. How’s it going it over there?
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Aw, that will forever be in our archives. Um Unnck and I don’t know your first name unfortunately I’m so sorry but says he found his spouse through sister Jill and says thank your she he or she shouldn’t assume he does. Thank you so much. So we appreciate all of you guys for showing up here with that.
We know that you have so many choices for your Freedom CBD products. So we do not take it lightly that you choose us and put your trust in us. And so if you have any questions afterwards, please let us know the replay will be up on our social media tomorrow and and out on our blog with full transcripts next week. So with additional resources and links to some of the things that we’ve discussed, we have lots of great information on terpenes and broad spectrum and full spectrum and all that on our blog. So we’ll be able to share those resources with you. But please let us know if you have any other questions or topics that you would like for future Live Q and A’s. And with that, I think Smalley it looks like Smalley, turned the lights off. It’ll do it looks like you turn the lights on. You were like I’m out.
[BRIAN SMALLEY] I always done the lights. Oh, really? Okay. Well, do you want to say bye to everybody? Yeah, thanks, everybody for coming. Bring your friends next time. I’m not sure what it’s gonna be on but it’ll be exciting, especially if it’s gonna be like another 25 days from now. That won’t be a little more fun than this one. I think
[SAMI BEDELL-MULHERN] Why cuz you’ll be back on the beer. Yeah, I mean, no, no more time to prep for the experience. Yeah. Okay. Well thanks, everybody for joining us and we’ll see you next time. Thanks, everybody